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DeadBeatDads started out as a support group for fathers who had been mistreated by the Children’s Services Authority nearly two years ago. Many had been threatened multiple times in order to extract every last penny in Child Support payments, even from their credit cards! In a short time Maurice and Sherry who established the group have seen it grow size as word of their help spread and with that came information that lead them to believe that all was not well with the legal system as they had attended many cases with members of the group.
Witnessing first hand evidence of collusion and corruption, unfair hearings by magistrates and the seemingly inexplicable ‘there’s nothing we can do about it’ mentality, Maurice came into contact with John Harris of TPUC.org and Lawful Rebellion.org Affidavits, realised the illusion of authority at hand and things began to change.
Maurice and Sherry detail in this interview the background to the CSA’s operations, the research and investigations they have conducted, the successes they have had with Lawful Affidavits, angry magistrates and corrupt courts, the incoming CMEC to replace the CSA, law research the hard way (getting snapped by speed cameras on purpose), run-ins with the police and much more.
For more information or to get in touch with DeatBeatDads, check out www.deadbeatdadsassociation.co.uk
Great interview. Many thanks – Maurice and Sherry, you’re doing great work. It’s all unravelling 🙂
Awesome interview
Many thanks for that guys, we are working hard uncovering the corruption every day, and we are bringing all the corrupt organisations involved in committing treason, acts of fraud and the blatant abuse of powers in order to line their own pockets.
Look out for our conferences too beginning 28th January look on our site for details.
Absolute pleasure talking to you guys and hope to see you all soon
Maurice and Sherri
Excellent interview Guys 🙂
Absolutely SUPERB interview. It sounds to me like virtually everything said between the 10 and 20 minute marks, not only apply to the corrupt links between the CSA and the Magistrates Courts, but equally between Borough Councils and Magistrates Courts.
I wonder how many men or women have managed to lift or pierce the corporate veil, then charge and bill the agents or representatives of these UC companies (which should be able to be upheld at county courts under civil law).
The anecdote about Maurice being stopped for speeding was also most revealing… “You have no rights”… very disturbing statement from a policeman!
Thanks again guys, for bringing more and more of the information needed through the experiences of we “common folk”.
Hallelujah brothers! 🙂
great work!
You support a child by putting out a dish at dinner and a bed in the corner, not by PAYING the whiny female who destroyed your family and stole your children.
So-called “child support” is nothing but Indentured Servitude, a form of slavery
Bob, I do not agree.
My children saw their father whenever they wanted. I did not request child support, only asked that he buy shoes and school uniform and I would do the rest. He agreed, but would not buy them shoes when they needed them and I never bothered asking for anything else.
The children saw him regularly and I didnt want to rock the boat.
Then he met his current wife (all previous gf were fine) and he stopped turning up. I would call him eventually asking him where he was, he would tell me OUT, when I asked if he was coming to get the kids, he said YOU CANT MAKE ME.
Then she/he tried to take me to court for not allowing him to see them. The texts he sent blew that out of the water. He tried applying for parental rights but they told him he would have to prove he was supporting his children, including financially. He decided not to bother.
Eventually, I moved away with my partner. When I told their dad, he came to see them. I made a claim with the CSA (it took from 2005-2007 to sort out as he would not comply)
He didnt despute my move, and he didnt visit again. I moved 6 weeks later on a friday, he still didnt come and see them, but ensured social services were here on Monday morning.
A couple of times a year, I drove them the 220mile to his house, but he refused to see them saying, Im working or its my only day off so Im not having them.
He says hes sent cards/gifts/money to them but they get lost in the post every year? This year they called him, he said he was busy he would call later, he called later to tell them he couldnt talk because he didnt have any credit. They have to have their own phones as his wife doesnt let him call any phone to do with me, and so I have to upkeep their phones too. And then, after new year, he asks me to take them to him for a visit!
He stopped paying again Oct 2008, and still is not paying. He and his boss friend have avoided the CSA by not answering their number and ignoring all post. The CSA are useless at getting any money from him, he doesnt want to take care of his kids and ONLY calls when he has had a row with his wife.
My children are the 2nd “lot” of his children that he has done this to, and we are very close to the 1st child and her family.
What else is there for them? Someone else has to raise them all, emotionally, physically and financially. Its right that he should be responsible for them.
Absolutely spot on the csa are punishing people like me for not being with my ex, i have no problem paying money towards the upkeep of my two girls from a previous relationship when i was 17 however i it is totally wrong that a company can assume the debt and take as much as they feel and not within your means especially when you have a new family. ex partners use the csa to take a form of revenge on their ex it is totally wrong. i am 25 years old and have a new partner of 3 years who is pregnant i have recently been issued with a 4000 pounds debt which has to be payed off within two years that equates to around 75 per week out of my 160 pounds a week after tax wage! how on earth can i have any sort of life working for 90 pound a week no wonder people go on the benefit system its an absolute disgrace something needs to be done about it
if anyone could offer me advice on how to go about dealing with the csa please do my email is garrie.chapman@googlemail.com i have been offered a position working as self employed is that the best thing to do to stop this company just taking as much as your money as they want???
42:15- OH YES YOU CAN!
Arrest is symonius with detain, So ask am i free to go. reply “NO” Remember they have not read your rights. then they place you in their car using authority as a weapon against your will.
Child locks on and you cant get out.
So lets see what we have here.
1.Unlawful arrest = you have not been read your rights.
2. missusing the law to = Kidnap you,(remember its niether lawful or legal what they are doing so far.
3. You cant get out of the car = false imprisonment.
you can throw a forth in if they blue light you its not recorded as an emegeny. = felony.
garrie – get in touch with DeadBeat Dad…
Fantastic podcast! You are an inspiration and will be for many many folk in the future. Keep up the good work as i’ve always stated from being a very young age that Truth will always shine through!
Peace to you all!
Kev
I wish people would get this into perspective. The CSA have powers that they dont use and dont know how to and obviously there are so many flaws in the system that NRP and PWC can work the system. Im a PWC and for 11 yrs fought the CSA over my ex’s lies about his earnings. I only want him to financially support his children with the correct amount that he can afford. He has never complied with anything and has had more children with other women which again he doesnt support properly and is not with them. He is S/E. Ive had an advance payment, Im one of few, but I still having probs and want the system changed. This I believe can only happen if we all work together and make ourselves heard but not by silly stunts as people will not take it seriously.
I would like to replay this podcast on ZMUK Radio, Please if that is ok with you.
As long as you don’t edit it and don’t sell it – no problems, feel free.
I think the comments displayed here show clearly that when families split up, whether ur a parent living with the children or a parent not living with the children, the CSA is not the remedy. I’ve heard so many stories of problems on both sides and so there is only one thing that I’m sure of: if there is any degree of divide between the parties prior to getting the CSA involved, getting the CSA involved will surely nuke any chance of resolving the situation.
hi there its nice to know that there are people like you in the world, and not so far away from where, i live in blackpool i loved the interview,
best regards andy reading a human being.
It would seem to be a global issue with government, that through fabricated evidence the gov tag fathers or partners as pedophiles etc…. and from what i am witnessing here in Oz…there is no recourse, they have a blank wall for the victims……
My best friend lost his partner in childbirth. He now looks after his wonderful little boy and is a great father. However…his obviously distraught step mother is fighting for custody of the child and it actually looks like she has a chance of taking this baby away from his natural and extremely loving and worthy father. How is this possible….any response to this or advise?
daniel – email deadbeats
I am in desperate need of help as the CSA are very close to killing me and I mean literally as I have recently had 3 heart attacks over the CSA and all the incredible stress they are putting me through. My housing association is throwing me out and making me homeless as I can’t pay the £1500 in arrears. I am only allowed £845.00 a month to live on out of £1400 take home. I have been to the MP and he said sorry cant help so that was useless. I have had my GP write to them asking to stop or I will die with this heart problem now caused by the stress.
I have been called by the CSA and threatened that if I talk to the MP again I have not seen anything yet and they will take more money out of my £845.00 and I was told we dont care about you loosing your home as these threats even though I showed them proof mean nothing to them.
She laughed and said get a tent………
Im so stressed and I have open heeart surgery on the 13th of April and I am told my blood pressure is too high and I will die if i don’t calm down. I told the CSA you are killing me is this what you want and she said well we cant chase you in hell can we ha ha ha. I broke down at this point and begged her to listen to me and she said ohh grow up you prick and hung the phone up.
I hav sent Dr’s letters Mp letters my begging letters and they do not do a thing to help just taunt me.
Im doomed to die with another heart attack but if anyone knows what i can do please email me direct to davidkiwi@gmail.com as I am so so desperate for help and will try anything.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE I AM LOOSING MY HOME AND MY ELECTRIC IS ABOUT TO BE CUT OFF IN TWO WEEKS. This company will kill me im sure of it.
I told them as I am on sick leave I may not be able to go back to work and I was told that will be the worst day of your life and loosing your home will be nothing to what we do to you if u leave or can’t work so I dont know where to turn now. I NEED URGENT HELP BEFORE I LOOSE MY LIFE.
DOES ANYONE CARE AT ALL FOR FATHERS. WHY AM I TREATED LIKE THIS WHY.
PLEASE PLEASE HELP ME IF U CAN I AM DESPERATE AND BEGGING FOR SOME HELP.
PLEASE.
DAVID CALDWELL
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My persistent civil libertarianism will cause an ulcer if I keep reading stories like this.
I have emailed Dead Beat Dads. Their website is very informative. I am in a desperate situation with the CSA and ned their help. I sent a donation as requested but have had it returned along with no reply to my emails. I am desperate for help and hoped they could.
I have an ex who to cut a long story short is claiming benefits and CSA from me yet my daughter left school 4 months previous and moved out of her mothers address at approx the same time . i contacted the benefits agency and the CSA and asked them to investigate .The Csa called my ex and asked her if my daughter had moved out she lied and said no , and that was the end of the investigation.The Csa then put an attatchment of earnings on my wages.
I then went to the hous ewhere my daughter is staying and i got a signed statement to say my daughter had lived at this address at least since April , i forwarded this to the benefits agency and the CSA, so the CSA called my daughters mother to ask if the letter was true so she denied it , CSa investigation over again!!!
I now have my MP involved and he is getting nowhere , i have tried to get the police involved as this is fraud against me but they will do nothing . Now my ex knows i wont let this lie she has ended the claim about a week ago and finally said my daughter has left home a week or so ago to avoid being caught yet the csa still cant see she has lied . I am sick of it all the csa obviously support fraud and our MPs have no power over them at all. Does anyone have any ideas what steps i can take against any of them ?
I am confused as to why you state a Notary Public is required. In the UK a solicitor empowered under oath on behalf of the crown is sufficient. Notaries are often used when affidavits are sworn regarding service of documents that have been issued outside of the country in which they have been served or in which they apply. A Notary is also much more costly than a solicitor
Re requested data from CSA now that i have recieved it how do i proceed? What do i need to look for? How long do i have to respond? etc
hi you advised me to give you a reminder if i did not hear from you in 48hrs. i know you vbusy but could you provide any guidance?
Norman
can everyone please use the forum for your conversations and questions etc… https://lawfulrebellion.org/forum/
we will not be publishing anything more than comments that add to the info already here.
Very interesting interview. I will also be in touch with deadbeatdads!! What I was wondering is if there is any case for defence in the Human Rights Act or Sex Discrimination Act??? Alternatively European Parliament?? My ex has continuously lied to the courts regarding her drug taking (kerry katona style) and that is how she got custody. I had very little support other than through paying for solicitors myself and almost bankrupting myself in the process. Like many others I had a breakdown as a result of all the stress and the lack of justice. Then you are hit again by the CSA. Everything I have had I have studied and worked for – everything my ex wife has got she has married and lied for!!! Makes me wonder who the mug is???
Well a lot mor einformation has been discovered since conducting that interview and the CSA are getting worried dropping themselves in it especially when you start a paper trail with them. Very interesting remarks we are getting when we have asked for our original maintenance enquiry forms
DBDA
around 31-32 minutes in – stare decisis means stand by a decission made, it is part of precedent, the speaker on stare decisis says it means summory judgement which is incorrect.
The majority of the rest of this infomation is good info.
i just like to say when i got started on by csa, i was self employed, i kept my self employed tax returns at a minimum, lol.. when i finally got my tax return from hmrc….i gave the csa the statement which was that id only earned 2000 quid for that year… lol….i was assesed to pay £8.00 per week for my 2 childr4en, that sure whiped that silly f..n grin of my x,s face who had been cheating left right and centre, i love my kids i have paid her thousand all provable through bank transfers, they still try hound me, telephone calls with unknown numbers… im a freeman on the land and the csa can kiss ma hairy scotch arse…along with the spiteful x who laughed in my face when she thought theyd take me to the cleaners. also if you trade as a ltd company, you can beat the csa or whoever…lol
All you people need to stop fighting amongst yourselves and your children and stop having so many kids with different people.
some people should be ashamed of themselves they use csa as a tool to hurt there ex partners my husband has two children with his ex wife she only ever wanted him to have kids as soon as she had the daughter she wonted she threw him out and divorced him she never allows him to see the kids and even when court ordered she refuses him access saying he refuses to see the children and the courts can do nothing about it. So he has to pay through the nose while we go with out and he still doesnt get to see his kids
SPERM DONORS DONT HAVE TO PAY CSA WHY SHOULD FATHERS WHO ARE REFUSED ACCESS HAVE TO PAY SCHEMING COWS WHO WONT A FREE MEAL TICKET ?
has anyone out there actually fought their corner in court & proved the csa wrong. The Majistrates seem on very friendly terms with the csa reps as does the clerk. I always thought the court was impartial & the clerk there to advise on the law, not to gang up on the poor bugger that has been ensnared. I hope the csa end up with employee that ends up wipeing their whole shambolic system. Kids are no better off under this system only the government & greedy mother with care gains from this child maintainance benefit, paid for by daddykins.
just got back from magestrates i had my cps letter proving my 17 year old son had just bern found guilty for attacking me assult i tried to reason with csa over phone after redundency my income was zero
i stated zero income and that my son was just procecuted for famiky violence at court i said the period of time is unemployed and its ether zero payment or 5er a week can i ad that my account should be re assessed due to me being a victim of FAMILY VIOLENCE they responded by saying there now uping the debt by 800% they uped the bill 800%
just because i had infirmed them one of the children im paying for had just been procecuted for FAMILY VIOLENCE csa act 16-10-6 clearly states family violence is a just reason to end the claim and or other due to HUMAN RIGHTS AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE LAWS
they have granted csa a liability order for 1000 pounds i have zero income and one of the kids im paying for has a conviction for attacking me on top of this theres a hate campain by the same child and others stating im a convicted child beater and peodofile
magestrates stated wen i shown the effidence that MEN DONT HAVE RIGHTS ,AND THE LAW DOESNT MEEN ANYTHING HERE THEY SAID THAT RECORDED ON A FRIENDS MOBILE PHONE TODAY THEY ACTUALLY SAID IT….
a innocent women has been video recorded acting taety in town this women dancing has been up loaded to youtube stating WIFE OF A CHILD BEATER REAL MICHEAL JACKSON AUDIE BOWLER go look its still there
magestrates said to my face today the law doesnt matter we are here to enforce HE SAID IT TO MY FACE I GOT IT RECORDED
After my (unsuccesful) court challenge to council tax, a magistrate seemed only too pleased to tell me that
‘if parliament decided to pass a law tomorrow which required everyone to paint their house blue, you would have to do it’
I decided not to remonstrate his comment for fear of being showered with a double decker bar he was rapidly scoffing, after all the level of arrogance on display is consistent in most courts with that of narccicist/psychopaths. sorry to hear of your story Audie.
just to say thanks to all at deadbeatdads what a big help
the csa have it comming to them only a matter of time now scumbags
yours
ant
Four appeals approved under article 6 ECHR CSA violated these rights by the wording of liability order summons. The CSA also admitted failure to produce evidence before the magistrates court in 3 of the above cases for the liability orders.
I have a letter from ym x wife from Her solicitors stating that we were getting divorced and that ” It is not our clients intentions to many ANY financial applications over and obove her application to the child support Agency for manintanance payments” this is from 2007, tho ive been told she can change her mind surely there must be some law i can use to use this from them charging me 3 thousand pound debts which they have refused to send me in writting to how they and who came to this decision
Re the CSA getting your Driving Licence Revoked, that is UNCONSTITUTIONAL according to Magna Carta.
(20) For a trivial offence, a free man shall be fined only in proportion to the degree of his offence, and for a serious offence correspondingly, but not so heavily as to deprive him of his livelihood. In the same way, a merchant shall be spared his merchandise, and a villein the implements of his husbandry, if they fall upon the mercy of a royal court. None of these fines shall be imposed except by the assessment on oath of reputable men of the neighbourhood. – See more at: http://www.bl.uk/magna-carta/articles/magna-carta-english-translation#sthash.EAomymOB.dpuf
Hi
I’ve just had a letter from csa stating they are going for a liability order against me for £6373 in arrears from sept 2007 to October 2015 how can this be correct I’ve asked for a breakdown as I was not working I have probably worked 2 years on minimum wage in that time so it probably be more like 2k I owe.. I was told I was not the father in 2010 I’ve asked them to help get a dna test which I would pay as I don’t know where they live and she stopped me seeing her in 2010 I’ve been told I’ve got to go to court for a parentage case but a solicitor has asked for over 2000 pound which I cannot afford.. I’ve been to my mp stating if she is my daughter I will pay the correct amount I owe but nobody will help me get a dna test the useless mp says I have to pay… how come the csa have more power than anyone… they say they work with department and pensions so they will know the dates I was not working but no they do not investigate properly they just come up with a sum in their heads and say yeah we will add an extra 4K on and that helps pay for the dads that actually don’t pay at all…. all I’ve ever done is try to get dna test and everybody refuses to help